I KNOW RIGHT. Math can do anything. And yes ma'am that's basically it :> That's why logos and such are commonly vector images. They're also usually made by simple shapes(but there are complicated ones too). You can see that here. We used that site in my graphic design class to mess around and change logos to spoof them. Vector art is possible, but I don't do it because I don't have the patience with the pen tool. XD This artist right here on theO is amazing with it though :D
And awesome! I'm glad SAI has that. :D I'm sure it'll be fun to experiment with! And of course~ I'm glad I could help~ :)
I see. That makes sense. :) MATH IS SO AMAZING... So the main feature about vectors is that vector images keep their quality even after lots of resizing. Although, vectoring pre-made images sounds a lot like tracing except in the name... xD; But yeah, I'll ask permission before tracing someone's picture. :)
I was looking online just now, and I think SAI actually has something called "vector layers". :o They were called linework layers on my computer, so I didn't know about them.
Thanks for answering all my questions! :D
Last edited by moonlit dream at 11:57:06 PM EDT on July 17, 2012.
Hmmm well things like text and vector shapes are still vectors until you rasterize them. But once you save it as a .jpg or something it turns bitmap because it lost those math equations that are keeping them vector(I hope I'm explaining this right XD). I've never used SAI or Gimp, but if you keep the resolution on anything 300 dpi then it can be enlarged a lot before losing quality. 300 dpi is printing size whereas most internet images are 72 dpi. So that can replace vector images if you plan on manipulating it for like company logos or something. And about vectoring things for your e-cards and stuff this might answer it, but then again you don't Illustrator and that would mean you would be tracing over someone's art, so you might want to personally ask them first. :)
Hm... So vectoring is only considered vectoring on vector based programs. (Sounds obvious. xD) If you do the whole vector process on a non-vector program, is it not considered a vector? And what about SAI or gimp? Those are the only programs I have downloaded. I'm pretty sure those aren't vector-based... Well, I'm not entirely certain about SAI. :T
/lots of question-things
NOT THE COMPANY ;D (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
Yeah what Wakusei said. XD What's good about vectors is that no matter how much you enlarge them or manipulate them, it will never loose it's quality because of those mathematical equations. For an example, a program that is vector based, such as Adobe Illustrator, is commonly used for company logos so that one can make it big for billboards or make it smaller for T-shirts or buttons, but it will never lose it's quality. The program Adobe Photoshop is bitmap based, meaning it uses pixels. The problem with bitmaps is that each time you mess around with their size they lose quality. That's why enlarging small pictures results in really blurry and low quality pictures. However, there are some vector based things in Photoshop. An example of this is the type tool or the pen tool that creates a shape layer. When you rasterize anything, that means that you're converting them from vector to bitmap.
So yeah. That's what I learned in graphic design class. xD
I see. :o That's essentially what I thought. I was wondering because I wanted to use some fan art on theO for e-cards/etc, and I thought that maybe I could vector them... and that's when I realized I wasn't quite sure what a vector was. xD
I wonder if vectoring theOtaku fan art is even allowed, though, even if the image is free to use for graphics on the site...? :I /thinking out loud
'Vector graphics is the use of geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and shapes or polygon(s), which are all based on mathematical expressions, to represent images in computer graphics.'
Yep, basically that's all they are. You just trace over the picture and make it look cleaner.
Or it's just shapey shapes...like cut out pieces except clean...
They have vector tutorials on DA that show that it's basically just tracing.
FUNimation
NOT THE COMPANY ;D (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/18/12 | Reply
@moonlit dream:
I KNOW RIGHT. Math can do anything. And yes ma'am that's basically it :> That's why logos and such are commonly vector images. They're also usually made by simple shapes(but there are complicated ones too). You can see that here. We used that site in my graphic design class to mess around and change logos to spoof them. Vector art is possible, but I don't do it because I don't have the patience with the pen tool. XD This artist right here on theO is amazing with it though :D
And awesome! I'm glad SAI has that. :D I'm sure it'll be fun to experiment with! And of course~ I'm glad I could help~ :)
moonlit dream
Supreme Individual (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
@FUNimation:
I see. That makes sense. :) MATH IS SO AMAZING... So the main feature about vectors is that vector images keep their quality even after lots of resizing. Although, vectoring pre-made images sounds a lot like tracing except in the name... xD; But yeah, I'll ask permission before tracing someone's picture. :)
I was looking online just now, and I think SAI actually has something called "vector layers". :o They were called linework layers on my computer, so I didn't know about them.
Thanks for answering all my questions! :D
Last edited by moonlit dream at 11:57:06 PM EDT on July 17, 2012.
FUNimation
NOT THE COMPANY ;D (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
@moonlit dream:
Hmmm well things like text and vector shapes are still vectors until you rasterize them. But once you save it as a .jpg or something it turns bitmap because it lost those math equations that are keeping them vector(I hope I'm explaining this right XD). I've never used SAI or Gimp, but if you keep the resolution on anything 300 dpi then it can be enlarged a lot before losing quality. 300 dpi is printing size whereas most internet images are 72 dpi. So that can replace vector images if you plan on manipulating it for like company logos or something. And about vectoring things for your e-cards and stuff this might answer it, but then again you don't Illustrator and that would mean you would be tracing over someone's art, so you might want to personally ask them first. :)
moonlit dream
Supreme Individual (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
@FUNimation:
Hm... So vectoring is only considered vectoring on vector based programs. (Sounds obvious. xD) If you do the whole vector process on a non-vector program, is it not considered a vector? And what about SAI or gimp? Those are the only programs I have downloaded. I'm pretty sure those aren't vector-based... Well, I'm not entirely certain about SAI. :T
/lots of question-things
FUNimation
NOT THE COMPANY ;D (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
Yeah what Wakusei said. XD What's good about vectors is that no matter how much you enlarge them or manipulate them, it will never loose it's quality because of those mathematical equations. For an example, a program that is vector based, such as Adobe Illustrator, is commonly used for company logos so that one can make it big for billboards or make it smaller for T-shirts or buttons, but it will never lose it's quality. The program Adobe Photoshop is bitmap based, meaning it uses pixels. The problem with bitmaps is that each time you mess around with their size they lose quality. That's why enlarging small pictures results in really blurry and low quality pictures. However, there are some vector based things in Photoshop. An example of this is the type tool or the pen tool that creates a shape layer. When you rasterize anything, that means that you're converting them from vector to bitmap.
So yeah. That's what I learned in graphic design class. xD
Wakusei Aoshi
Otaku Eternal | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
@moonlit dream:
Well, there are a lot of things on here that are allowed the probably shouldn't be. Don't worry 'bout it!
moonlit dream
Supreme Individual (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
@Wakusei Aoshi:
I see. :o That's essentially what I thought. I was wondering because I wanted to use some fan art on theO for e-cards/etc, and I thought that maybe I could vector them... and that's when I realized I wasn't quite sure what a vector was. xD
I wonder if vectoring theOtaku fan art is even allowed, though, even if the image is free to use for graphics on the site...? :I /thinking out loud
Wakusei Aoshi
Otaku Eternal | Posted 07/17/12 | Reply
'Vector graphics is the use of geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and shapes or polygon(s), which are all based on mathematical expressions, to represent images in computer graphics.'
Yep, basically that's all they are. You just trace over the picture and make it look cleaner.
Or it's just shapey shapes...like cut out pieces except clean...
They have vector tutorials on DA that show that it's basically just tracing.