My parents bought me a $200 Yamaha Eterna acoustic guitar when I was 15 when I started taking lessons, and it's still the one I use now at 32. You can get a really good guitar for decent money :-)
For the record, anyone seriously interested in learning guitar should not want to buy a $30 child's first guitar.
Those are junk.
I was going to say the same thing. Plus, Walmart is the last place I'd want to buy a musical instrument.
When I started playing saxophone in elementary school, my dad did a payment plan on a $700 sax. So (to address Cougarsama) there are ways to get quality instruments without having to put down the whole amount at one time.
Last edited by TimeChaser at 3:30:22 PM CST on February 17, 2011.
For the record, anyone seriously interested in learning guitar should not want to buy a $30 child's first guitar.
Those are junk.
At that point, a basic real real guitar, depending on whether you buy new or used (and how well kept it is), can range from anything from $50 to $500. And then of course if you're looking at an electric guitar then you need to buy the amp and other such things as well.
Secondly, there's always a bothersome logic jump of "people play music band games instead of learning to play a instrument." What about light gun games? Why are people shooting plastic guns at a screen instead of learning to shoot a real gun? What about racing cabinets in the arcades? Why are people pretending to drive on the Initial D mountain road instead of really learning to drift race?
The game peripherals aren't pretending to be real guitars or drums, they are just controllers - a means to play the game.
Unless you're talking Rock Band 3's "Pro Mode", which is a means to learn to play the real thing but in video game form . . .
Last edited by SomeGuy at 3:16:26 PM CST on February 17, 2011.
For a kid who's never played a real instrument, Guitar Hero could be a fun way to experience what its (sort of) like to play, which could then lead to them wanting to jump to the real thing.
Nothing like a little childhood trauma to build character. Wait, are you actually seing ball man's pic if your describing, Ichigo? I think getting horns on you skull would be freakier. Or the man that is turning himself into a cat. He has an upper lip that is puffed out (like for a cat in anime's), he has artificial wiskers, had his eyes altered to cat eyes, and has long pointed nails. He also wears a mechanical tail, waiting in hope for the day he can get a real cat tail. I hope it would be made with stem cells. No animals must be harmed. None. You didn't get a chance to mock the Mexicans.
That whole idol/spare underwear thing? That's also my feelings on several other things actually.
I'm not sorry to hear that Guitar Hero has now failed; I was never sure that was such a good idea. Isn't it less expensive to buy an actual instrument and learn to play it for real. Yay, Rush; hey, Tom Sawyer!
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
Now that was awesome. Heh, much better than two hours of us rambling on. :P And I'm happy that the previous sound issues were sufficiently fixed. And the opening moment was epic.
I remember seeing "Green Day" music something in the store and my brain went "kapfffffff". With how saturated Guitar Hero got, I just lumped them together. Off-the-cuff research failure, my bad.
The Green Day game is actually a Rock Band game by Harmonix, more or less the same idea as the Beatles one they did a couple years back; Guitar Hero did Aerosmith, Metallica, and Van Halen.
The reasoning was that Green Day actually works very well for the Rock Band game style with vocal harmonies and a wide variety of song difficulties, as well as actually still being relevant to modern music today compared to the direct influence bands like Aerosmith and Van Halen have now.
The other difference between "Green Day: Rock Band" and the other games is that Harmonix actually gives a damn about the artists they portray in their games ("The Beatles" game was essentially a giant love letter to the band and their fans). All 47 songs on the Green Day disc are actually by Green Day, compared to, for example, "Guitar Hero: Van Halen" which was 25 Van Halen songs, 3 Eddie Van Halen solos, and 19 songs by other "guest" artists. In short, half the Van Halen game isn't even Van Halen - and of the songs that are, none are from the Sammy Hagar years and Sammy is completely absent from the game.
As for the "Game that needs DLC" subject . . . Ichigo, allow me to elaborate.
The core Rock Band games have enough songs as the are to satisfy games for a long while - 58 on-dic songs in the first, 84 in the second, 83 in the third and newest one, as well as 45 songs in Lego Rock Band. If you never downloaded an extra song for the game, you could still have a very happy time playing them as such (and if you were a Wii owner back for the first one, that WAS all you had).
But, if you feel like expanding your library to include more/new songs, maybe songs you really love, or artists that you feel would make for a really hilarious party moment (or trick on your friends), then the Rock Band online network has (currently) about 1,220 songs - and pretty much all of those songs will work with most version of the game that gamers own.
The meat may be the game and songs on the disc, but over the course of 3-4 years, Harmonix has made an OCEAN of gravy for that meat.
cougarsama
LDS Fangirl! (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/18/11 | Reply
@SomeGuy:
Maybe I'm just bitter because I failed even in the tutorial level; I don't do the fingering right.
AP Ichigo
Japan Bureau (Podcasters) | Posted 02/18/11 | Reply
@TimeChaser:
My parents bought me a $200 Yamaha Eterna acoustic guitar when I was 15 when I started taking lessons, and it's still the one I use now at 32. You can get a really good guitar for decent money :-)
Thanks,
Ichigo
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/17/11 | Reply
@SomeGuy:
For the record, anyone seriously interested in learning guitar should not want to buy a $30 child's first guitar.
Those are junk.
I was going to say the same thing. Plus, Walmart is the last place I'd want to buy a musical instrument.
When I started playing saxophone in elementary school, my dad did a payment plan on a $700 sax. So (to address Cougarsama) there are ways to get quality instruments without having to put down the whole amount at one time.
Last edited by TimeChaser at 3:30:22 PM CST on February 17, 2011.
Bazinga!
SomeGuy
Canadian Liaison (Team) | Posted 02/17/11 | Reply
@cougarsama:
For the record, anyone seriously interested in learning guitar should not want to buy a $30 child's first guitar.
Those are junk.
At that point, a basic real real guitar, depending on whether you buy new or used (and how well kept it is), can range from anything from $50 to $500. And then of course if you're looking at an electric guitar then you need to buy the amp and other such things as well.
Secondly, there's always a bothersome logic jump of "people play music band games instead of learning to play a instrument." What about light gun games? Why are people shooting plastic guns at a screen instead of learning to shoot a real gun? What about racing cabinets in the arcades? Why are people pretending to drive on the Initial D mountain road instead of really learning to drift race?
The game peripherals aren't pretending to be real guitars or drums, they are just controllers - a means to play the game.
Unless you're talking Rock Band 3's "Pro Mode", which is a means to learn to play the real thing but in video game form . . .
Last edited by SomeGuy at 3:16:26 PM CST on February 17, 2011.
cougarsama
LDS Fangirl! (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/17/11 | Reply
@TimeChaser:
Yes, but my main point is that you can get a child's first guitar at Walmart for $30. How much for the Guitar Hero game and equipment?
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/16/11 | Reply
@cougarsama:
For a kid who's never played a real instrument, Guitar Hero could be a fun way to experience what its (sort of) like to play, which could then lead to them wanting to jump to the real thing.
Bazinga!
Orange Hollow
Otakuite | Posted 02/16/11 | Reply
@cougarsama:
"Yay, Rush; hey, Tom Sawyer!"
Yay, indeed! 2112 is the
longestbest song in the world!Silver Mech
Grand Otaku | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
Nothing like a little childhood trauma to build character. Wait, are you actually seing ball man's pic if your describing, Ichigo? I think getting horns on you skull would be freakier. Or the man that is turning himself into a cat. He has an upper lip that is puffed out (like for a cat in anime's), he has artificial wiskers, had his eyes altered to cat eyes, and has long pointed nails. He also wears a mechanical tail, waiting in hope for the day he can get a real cat tail. I hope it would be made with stem cells. No animals must be harmed. None. You didn't get a chance to mock the Mexicans.
cougarsama
LDS Fangirl! (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
That whole idol/spare underwear thing? That's also my feelings on several other things actually.
I'm not sorry to hear that Guitar Hero has now failed; I was never sure that was such a good idea. Isn't it less expensive to buy an actual instrument and learn to play it for real. Yay, Rush; hey, Tom Sawyer!
Yes, Death Note references always work.
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
Now that was awesome. Heh, much better than two hours of us rambling on. :P And I'm happy that the previous sound issues were sufficiently fixed. And the opening moment was epic.
Bazinga!
Katana
Goggalor (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
@SomeGuy:
I remember seeing "Green Day" music something in the store and my brain went "kapfffffff". With how saturated Guitar Hero got, I just lumped them together. Off-the-cuff research failure, my bad.
"In Kat's wor we trust."
SomeGuy
Canadian Liaison (Team) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
Katana research fail:
The Green Day game is actually a Rock Band game by Harmonix, more or less the same idea as the Beatles one they did a couple years back; Guitar Hero did Aerosmith, Metallica, and Van Halen.
The reasoning was that Green Day actually works very well for the Rock Band game style with vocal harmonies and a wide variety of song difficulties, as well as actually still being relevant to modern music today compared to the direct influence bands like Aerosmith and Van Halen have now.
The other difference between "Green Day: Rock Band" and the other games is that Harmonix actually gives a damn about the artists they portray in their games ("The Beatles" game was essentially a giant love letter to the band and their fans). All 47 songs on the Green Day disc are actually by Green Day, compared to, for example, "Guitar Hero: Van Halen" which was 25 Van Halen songs, 3 Eddie Van Halen solos, and 19 songs by other "guest" artists. In short, half the Van Halen game isn't even Van Halen - and of the songs that are, none are from the Sammy Hagar years and Sammy is completely absent from the game.
As for the "Game that needs DLC" subject . . . Ichigo, allow me to elaborate.
The core Rock Band games have enough songs as the are to satisfy games for a long while - 58 on-dic songs in the first, 84 in the second, 83 in the third and newest one, as well as 45 songs in Lego Rock Band. If you never downloaded an extra song for the game, you could still have a very happy time playing them as such (and if you were a Wii owner back for the first one, that WAS all you had).
But, if you feel like expanding your library to include more/new songs, maybe songs you really love, or artists that you feel would make for a really hilarious party moment (or trick on your friends), then the Rock Band online network has (currently) about 1,220 songs - and pretty much all of those songs will work with most version of the game that gamers own.
The meat may be the game and songs on the disc, but over the course of 3-4 years, Harmonix has made an OCEAN of gravy for that meat.
Katana
Goggalor (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
@TimeChaser:
I know. I like to scream things though, especially at Ichigo's expense.
"In Kat's wor we trust."
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
@Katana:
We were there, we're as much at fault. :P
Bazinga!
Katana
Goggalor (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 02/14/11 | Reply
ICHIGO, YOU FORGOT THE WATERCOOLER AGAAAAAIN
"In Kat's wor we trust."